Strength and Aerobic Training in the Same Session – Does the Order Matter?
The idea of programming can be a confusing one and as I discussed in a previous blog article, Concurrent Training: Strength and Aerobic Training at the Same Time?, both strength training and aerobic training apply different types of stress on the body and thus produce different molecular adaptations.
The big argument that always comes back is, “How practical is being able to always separate the two?”. Obviously we only have seven days in the week and with athletes needing to attend practice, competitions, and (if you are working with high school or college athletes) class, it can get really difficult to practically lay some of this stuff out as time is limited. Research happens in a much more controlled environment than the “real world” and sometimes we need to get creative with training structure.
What if we have to do Strength Training and Aerobic Training in the Same Session?
Performing strength training and conditioning tasks in the same session is a common way of prescribing training as it allows us to train several qualities in a time efficient manner. As I discussed in the Concurrent Training Article, the amount of focus you place on each task will be dependent on the goals of the training session, the phase of training and the athlete’s individual needs. One question that people often ask is, “Which should I do first? Conditioning or Strength Training?”. My reply to that is always, “It depends”.
A 2009 paper by Coffey and Hawley looked at successive bouts of strength and aerobic training during two different training session – one where the eight subjects performed strength training first and the other where the subjects performed aerobic training first.
Session 1
- Resistance Training: Leg Extensions – 8 sets x 5 reps @ 80% intensity; Rest = 3min
- 15min rest period
- Endurance Training: Cycling – 30min continuously at a power output of approximately 70% of the individuals VO2peak
Session 2 (2 weeks after Session 1)
- Endurance Training: Cycling – 30min continuously at a power output of approximately 70% of the individuals VO2peak
- 15min rest period
- Resistance Training: Leg Extensions – 8 sets x 5 reps @ 80% intensity; Rest = 3min
Key Findings
- When endurance training was performed before resistance training (Session 2) there was a decrease in genes specifically associated with hypertrophy; therefore, the anabolic effect of resistance training may be blunted.
- When resistance training is performed before endurance training (Session 1) there is potential to exacerbate inflammation and protein degradation
- The results of this study are consistent with other studies indicating that there is an interference effect that takes place when two types of different training modalities are performed in the same session (as discussed in the Concurrent Training Article)
Practical Application
It would appear that anyway you slice it you get some sort of negative effect. Do your conditioning before your resistance training and you blunt the anabolic response. Do your resistance training before your conditioning and you end up with greater amounts of inflammation and protein degradation.
Thus, to answer the question of, “Which should I do first?”, we have to take into consideration the individuals needs because, as I stated earlier, “It depends!”
When looking at the individual athlete and trying to understand their needs it is important to remember that most team sport athletes do not need to maximize their potential in one single area (strength or power) but rather need to be a little more well-rounded and possess the capacity to repeat explosive and powerful efforts over the course of a game.
Oftentimes, when testing an athlete, we will typically find that the athlete tends to be dominant in one physical aspect (IE, strength) and may be lacking in another (IE, conditioning or sport specific work capacity), thus, our training should reflect that athlete’s needs during certain training phases when we are trying to make improvements in specific qualities.
For example, For an athlete who is already strong, powerful, and posses a large amount of muscle mass, my goals of training may be to improve their general fitness and work capacity and maintain their strength and power. In this athlete I may choose to perform some conditioning work first in the session and follow that with a low volume strength session, as maintenance work, for a few weeks until I get the fitness changes that I want. For an athlete who possess great conditioning but lacks strength and power my goal in that first phase of training would be to perform the strength and power work first in the session, to prioritize that quality, and then perform some low volume conditioning (maintenance work) at the end of session.
Obviously the most ideal situation would be to break up the week, separate the qualities, and train them at the volumes and intensities necessary for the individual; however, this is not always possible. In the offseason, when there are less demands placed on the individual, you may be able to get away with this type of setup but as the season draws near you may need to get more creative with your programming and figure out how to prioritize specific qualities on the limited training days that are available to you.
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patrick@optimumsportsperformance.com




11 comments
Great post Patrick. Not sure if you’ve seen this paper; it showed that strength training after endurance training actually increased mitochondrial growth. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21836044
Curb,
Interesting! I have not seen that paper. Do you happen to have the full text?
Patrick
Check your email buddy. I’m going to have to read this one a few times.
Just to add from an anecdotal perspective, for some time very good running coaches have advocated doing resistance work after running workouts. This paper may explain why this has been such an effective strategy.
Thanks!
Yes, I have heard some coaches say they chose to do it this way because they felt that they always wanted to end the session with something anabolic (resistance training). Interesting.
patrick
Perhaps the third variable, nutrient timing may be an avenue we want to see taken into consideration. I have never seen any order hurt elite sport with speed and power, and have seen world class distance people combine both with podium performances. I prefer separating sessions within the same day but never see a problem with this outside the lab. My belief is that eventually people will adapt and as intensities increase, that adaption is not a choice!
Carl,
No doubt, there are a number of variables to consider. After awhile and as intensities increase the body will adapt to what you are throwing at it. I do think that in earlier phases of training there is something to be said for focusing on the individual quality/need when you can to ensure you are getting what you want.
Patrick
Could you share actual season data Patrick so guys that are more visual like myself could see how you are seeing the relationships from the science and research into practice? I have yet to see a pure block of anything in any major sport at the highest level? Anything more explicit? I am not biased to concurrent models but I have yet to see the limits of interference unless we are trying to see a kenyon try to win the shotput and the marathon in Rio.
Carl,
The layout that I use is not the typical “pure” block model that most think about when they hear that term. My method of programming is sort of a mish-mash of different things. I do train various qualities in a training phase, although the volumes and intensities shift with regard to what we are trying to accomplish (so I have a central goal in each phase). Even vertical integration structure was set up to train multiple qualities just with different volumes – e.g., when you lift with high volume you might be sprinting with less volume and when you sprint with high volume you are lifting with less volume.
As far as an example of the above, a good one I could give you would be in a training phase where I am prioritizing general fitness/work capacity over max strength (alactic-cp work) I might have days where the individual will perform tempo runs or aerobic intervals first (or in the morning if we are doing am/pm workouts) and then finish the session with some form of lifting, commonly 3-4 exercises of 3-4 sets x 8-10 repetitions at 70-75% intensity. This would then shift when we start to prioritize strength more and lifting would come first in the session and the tempo/aerobic work would move to a different day altogether.
patrick
In this study there is only 15 min rest period between those exercises. If muscle/strength training is the most important thing in period, can I do cardio at all? If I do two exercises per day strength would be the first and cardio at the evening, some hours later. Should cardio be left away? Is it bad for strength/ muscle training?
Tuce,
Not sure I completely follow your question. I believe you are asking if you could do strength and cardiovascular training in the same day? I would say “yes” you could, although I know nothing about you (training age, goals, etc), but in general you could combine the two into the program if it makes sense for how you layout your training week (and for the logistics of your training).
patrick
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